I am disappointed about the way people treat each other in this country and our state. I even used to be this way, but I never lied to my fellow peeps. Now, it seems that everyone is agenda driven and seems to desire to appeal to the ignorant. Would you be offended if I told you people that do this seem to make it like you are stupid? Take the COS in general. They serve up more vitriol than I ever did. They are only interested in sharing their side and do not take kindly to debating the issue and some people, based on what they know either support it or don’t.
What I am finding out is that most of the people that support COS lack any understanding beyond COS talking points. They also don’t know enough about learning alternate perspectives that once known reveal the truth about the COS. I try not to speak badly about anyone, I still believe we can have friendly debates but some orgs like COS won’t have any part of it. Even Teresa, who I have tried to be friendly with won’t seem to have it. We can still disagree but for crying out loud the people deserve a dialogue not a one-sided propaganda campaign!
If JBS is the only organization that opposes the COS, aren’t people interested in why we oppose it? If Americans are only interested in one side, we may/will suffer unintended consequences. I hope I may share a few of those with you here, just know the list is long and easy to navigate once you see them.
First off, Haldorson says Moon adheres to a “False” narrative but won’t get into details. Then she calls it illogical and confusing, but also lacks details. This is what COS does at almost every turn. What is worse is that this “liberty person” seems to have launched general attacks against a GOP chair because she disagrees with COS? This, to me, was bad form and tells me that Haldorson doesn’t really think people deserve to know more than the rhetoric generated or maybe people don’t want to know. They, like so many, would just rather sling mud than talk about differences and details.
COS is not a good idea, and I would base my reputation on what I say. I would even go so far as to tell you why and let you decide. If you trust “experts” that are politicians and attorneys, you probably don’t know you are being played as part of an agenda they won’t even admit exists. Questions about the reality of this topic? Give me a try and decide for yourself.
If Soros was funding candidates in your local elections, would that bother you? What if I told you a group like COS is spending allegedly 80-100K on getting the people you elected out of office that oppose COS? Would that bother you? These are several firsthand accounts by your legislators by the way, I didn’t just make it up! Now, in speaking with many of them, they now support COS because they don’t want to be voted out. Even if this was an accusation, would it not be worth your consideration?
Let us just review and counter this op-ed, shall we?
First, a “runaway convention” is not a “false narrative,” it is a precedent. A runaway convention is the idea that delegates will exceed their commissions and therefore will/could exceed the stated “limitations” by state legislatures, which is an untruth. Delegates from the first convention exceeded their commissions in violation of Article XIII of the Articles of Confederation, therefore it is a real possibility and since the convention is, even according to Robert Natelson, a stand-alone deliberative body and cannot be limited by the states.
Second, Moon’s position is far more logical than COS and if most Republicans were informed on this issue, it would strengthen the Republican Party rather than weaken it.
Third, if the GOP is more concerned with the platform than they are about the future of the country, that is a choice they get to make but Haldorson should recognize or prioritize the importance of what we are dealing with here. Is she advocating changes to the constitution like she sees with the platforms “living and breathing” history and if she operated counter to that platform what if she was right? (and she is). Party platforms change twice a year. Would Haldorson have made that statement when in previous years when the GOP opposed the convention in their platform? Is Moon’s oath of allegiance to support and defend the constitution or the GOP platform the priority, and don’t we need people that question everything or only those that tow a narrative? Moon should be appreciated for her position considering the amount of heat that surrounds her as the establishment wishes to get her out. Could Haldorson in this example alone be a closet establishment person against Dorothy Moon? I mean if she uses that analogy with others that don’t agree with her, can we not apply the same logic?
As for Moon’s position that counters such “experts” Michael Farris and Rob Natelson, and U.S. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, sure it would be a cause to look into but who is to say these “scholars” are right? You would think they would be or could be, but what if they are not? The good thing about this issue, although it has become way too complicated, is that the arguments that are used to support a COS are easy to counter and spot inconsistencies.
The other important thing to know is that people should not condemn or support people as much as they should be concerned about issues. Yeah, it does help to have people with a general understanding of the constitution and have a consistent worldview because if you lack either, you could be easily persuaded to support such a thing. I know many good people that think this is a great idea, but they are in many cases extremely inconsistent in their arguments. In other words, “experts” may be a good source of consideration, but nothing would be better than people that are informed and are jealous guardians of liberty that not only study both sides of an issue but can admit when they are wrong. Is Glenn Beck now a leftist because he now opposes the COS? Is Antonin Scalia now a leftist because he opposed COS? Were you even aware of those examples?
As far as “expert research,” Haldorson doesn’t offer any details. From what I have seen, most are opinions based on who they are, and they have not demonstrated the safety and security of a convention because mock conventions were planned, and COS chose their delegates. This is lunacy to believe that a real convention would yield the same outcome.
I know this is a hard pill for many to swallow, which is probably why Haldorson wrote it, but Chairwoman Moon should be at direct odds with such people as Mark Levin, Ron DeSantis, Tucker Carlson, Ben Carson, Ben Shapiro, Colonel Allen West, and others because she is right, and they are either wrong or somehow benefit from supporting a COS, or both. We know DeSantis, for example, is getting subsidized to the tune of over 300k, if the IRS docs I read are accurate. Wouldn’t that be a cause for concern?
Haldorson continues to slam Moon, which seems to show her priorities: slamming Moon is more important than saving our country on one hand, while saying that COS will save our republic which is an unsubstantiated claim, a dream at best.
As for Haldorson’s comments that tout the highly misleading and tireless repetitive false COS narrative, I would suggest that she may be more interested in “appealing to the ignorant” on this topic to gain support because no one in their right mind would believe opposition for a thing to mean “if you are not with us, you are aligned with them.” That somehow people are not allowed to think critically, counter any narrative, align with the Democratic mobocracy, or believe that multiple sides can’t oppose/support a thing for different reasons. To state those that oppose COS “aligns with the left” is not only misleading, but also highly divisive and attempts to label others as something they are not which is more consistent with political party politics or tactics of the government than attempts concerned Americans wish to save our country.
It should also be said that while COS says no liberal organization supports an Article 5 convention, many leftist organizations do. It should also be said that COS believed that the federal government would never advocate for a convention as they currently talk about doing so.
No doubt, COS is a very well financed, very well-organized group, funding material for distribution but they only seem to placate to the legislature, not to educating the citizens. Afterall, it is our constitution we are talking about here; don’t you think people need to be better informed on both sides of the issue rather than just reading worthless misleading opinions and our positions on issues (like this one)? The only reason I wrote it is because op-eds like that need to be challenged, especially when people deserve to know better.
For every claim they make, you should desire to know the counter to that statement. The cool part is that exposing COS for what they say is easy if you know your constitution and have a consistent worldview. If you don’t, the constitution may not be the problem (and isn’t), that problem just may be those that don’t know better. The great thing for those that don’t know is they can learn, but they have to really want to because the truth may not always be easy to accept. But it beats having to constantly cover up a lie.
Disagree? let’s talk about it! I am willing when so many others are not. What does that say?
This Op-Ed was submitted by Tom Munds and originally published on TomMunds.com. Op-Eds do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of those at the Idaho Dispatch.
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